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tonight's question, in light of the president's remarks, will a fiscal cliff deal get done? text "a" for yes, text "b" for no to 622639 or go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. i'll bring you the results later in the show. joining me now is sheldon whitehouse from rhode island. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> sir, this is serious, this is even dire. are you encouraged by the meeting today and the president's remarks in the aftermath of that meeting? >> well, i think that the decision to move the forum for the negotiations to the senate was a necessary one. i have a lot of confidence in harry reid's negotiating ability. mitch mcconnell is a veteran negotiator, and i think there's a far better prospect of something being worked out in the senate than there was dealing with speaker boehner and his completely dysfunctional house republican party. >> sure. well, abiding by convention and of course protocol, the senate won't return until sunday. will there be enough time for the senate leaders to really craft a deal that is substantiative and makes a difference,
tonight's question, in light of the president's remarks, will a fiscal cliff deal get done? text "a" for yes, text "b" for no to 622639 or go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. i'll bring you the results later in the show. joining me now is sheldon whitehouse from rhode island. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> sir, this is serious, this is even dire. are you encouraged by the meeting today and the president's remarks in the aftermath of that...
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. >> as the country moves closer to going over the fiscal cliff, the partisan rhetoric reaches new lows. can washington hammer out a deal before it's too late. the american people should be outraged at this because it is disgraceful. it is purposely misleading. >> shocking developments at the state department. the four officials supposedly out of their jobs after the benghazi terror attack reportedly still on the government payroll. how can that be? [chanting] protect the constitution. >> the liberal "new york times" says last month's election significantly weakened the tea party. is that true? we will have a debate. chanting] >> u.s.a. >> caution, you where to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >> i'm greg gutfeld in for bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us. our top story tonight, the last ditch effort to avert the fiscal cliff. president obama met with congressional leaders for several hours at the white house today to try to hammer out a deal before taxes go up on more than 160 million americans. after the meeting, the president presented a new plan to avoid the cl
. >> as the country moves closer to going over the fiscal cliff, the partisan rhetoric reaches new lows. can washington hammer out a deal before it's too late. the american people should be outraged at this because it is disgraceful. it is purposely misleading. >> shocking developments at the state department. the four officials supposedly out of their jobs after the benghazi terror attack reportedly still on the government payroll. how can that be? [chanting] protect the...
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. >>> you may have heard of the fiscal cliff described as a self-inflicted wound, a manufactured crisis. that just means it didn't come out of the blue. the bottom line is this. whatever happens we have done it to ourselves. cnn's ali velshi shows us how we got here. >> now we have passed a bold package of tax relief for america's families and businesses. >> it starts more than a decade ago when president bush initiated a series of tax cuts for all americans. but it's a deal with with the devil. the cuts, which are politically expedient but costly to government, expire in ten year's time. >> both houses of congress have passed tax relief that will protect the middle class. >> when it came time for the cuts to expire, the u.s. was emerging from the worst recession since the great depression. so president obama agreed to extend the tax cuts for two more years in exchange for congress extending federal emergency unemployment benefits. those cuts are expensive. if they are extended by 2020, the bush era tax cuts will be responsible for more than half the total national debt. democrats insis
. >>> you may have heard of the fiscal cliff described as a self-inflicted wound, a manufactured crisis. that just means it didn't come out of the blue. the bottom line is this. whatever happens we have done it to ourselves. cnn's ali velshi shows us how we got here. >> now we have passed a bold package of tax relief for america's families and businesses. >> it starts more than a decade ago when president bush initiated a series of tax cuts for all americans. but it's a...
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. >> they avoid the fiscal cliff so far but it is far from a done deal in the house. what does it mean for struggling economy? >> up first around the world people are ringing in the new year. in shanghai they set it off with fireworks. a whole lot of them. also a laser light show to showcase tradition and technological advances. celebrations taking part in due by. douche /* lit up the sky and the world's tallest building. byi big ben struck 12 in england as well. next to iran where military drills continue for a fourth straight day. iranian officials say their military tests fired a range of weapons yesterday including the new air defense system seen here. a scary scene in brazil rescue crashes right into the water. this is in rio de janeiro. they managed to make it out okay the swimmer was also saved a surfer. >> wow. >> oo in with the new year out with the old in the big apple. look at times square with the clean upfrom last night's new year's eve if he is tiffities is still underway. 2,000 pounds of confetti blew through the air after the ball dropped that means a
. >> they avoid the fiscal cliff so far but it is far from a done deal in the house. what does it mean for struggling economy? >> up first around the world people are ringing in the new year. in shanghai they set it off with fireworks. a whole lot of them. also a laser light show to showcase tradition and technological advances. celebrations taking part in due by. douche /* lit up the sky and the world's tallest building. byi big ben struck 12 in england as well. next to iran where...
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that's just one day before the fiscal cliff deadline when income tax cuts and payroll tax cuts are set to expire, $110 billion worth of spending cuts kick in, and two million jobless americans lose their unemployment benefits. for the first time, leader reid said today that it looks like the nation is going to go over the fiscal cliff, but that may just have been bluster, jeff, to try to put more pressure on republicans. >> glor: so, nancy, the house coming back on sunday. is that a good sign? >> reporter: well, it is in the sense that if the senate does manage to pass something, the house would be here to vote on it, as well. originally, speaker boehner had told his members that he would give them 48 hours' notice if they were needed back here at the capitol, but there was a recognition, i think, that it just looked bad for the house to be gone when we were so close to the fiscal cliff deadline. >> glor: nancy cordes, thank you. major garrett has been following developments at the white house. major, what is the president's next move? >> reporter: it is not a breakthrough but it is a
that's just one day before the fiscal cliff deadline when income tax cuts and payroll tax cuts are set to expire, $110 billion worth of spending cuts kick in, and two million jobless americans lose their unemployment benefits. for the first time, leader reid said today that it looks like the nation is going to go over the fiscal cliff, but that may just have been bluster, jeff, to try to put more pressure on republicans. >> glor: so, nancy, the house coming back on sunday. is that a good...
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members of both parties warn as bad as going over the fiscal cliff could be it is better than a deal that looks in what each sees as problems for years. >>trace: the president admits there is still work to be done. >>reporter: still questions of how to pay the extra money medicare doctors have been given and how to keep the alternative minimum tax from burning millions of new taxpayers. in addition to the spending cuts put off until 2013. it is not a done deal. >> there are still issues left to resolve. we are hopeful congress can get it done. it is not done. part of the reason i wanted to speak to you today is to make sure we emphasize to conditioning and that members understand this is a pressing concern across america. >>reporter: the deal would not satisfy the conditions congress made for avoid the fiscal cliff and the president will not go to hawaii to avoid the fiscal cliff and ever continue we get past the fiscal cliff, round two is in a couple of months when congress has to raise the debt ceiling to keep the country from default. trace? >>trace: thank you, wendell, from the w
members of both parties warn as bad as going over the fiscal cliff could be it is better than a deal that looks in what each sees as problems for years. >>trace: the president admits there is still work to be done. >>reporter: still questions of how to pay the extra money medicare doctors have been given and how to keep the alternative minimum tax from burning millions of new taxpayers. in addition to the spending cuts put off until 2013. it is not a done deal. >> there are...
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does it appear that work is done or of course talking about fiscal cliff and done to three, four, five, sometimes two men talking in a room. so are you busy, working or still thinking you shouldn't be there maybe right now? >> we are not doing anything. we have to be here because if there is an agreement then we have the responsibility to vote on it but as far as what we're doing, this is the real exciting part of my day right now talking to you. >> sir, that's remarkable and i know you're joking and grinning but to american people waiting and wondering about their paycheck for the next day, two, week, month and to hear a member of congress to say we're here and doing nothing, that's hard to register. >> i agree with them. this is an indictment of congress that we have come to this state and where the function that most members of congress have is to simply be on hand so that in the event the negotiators reach agreement we can ratify or reject it but the fact to december 31st, new year's day and all of us should be with our families and america have some confidence that congress does h
does it appear that work is done or of course talking about fiscal cliff and done to three, four, five, sometimes two men talking in a room. so are you busy, working or still thinking you shouldn't be there maybe right now? >> we are not doing anything. we have to be here because if there is an agreement then we have the responsibility to vote on it but as far as what we're doing, this is the real exciting part of my day right now talking to you. >> sir, that's remarkable and i know...
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. >>> if bridging the partisan divide wasn't challenge enough, get ready because the fiscal cliff is far from a done deal. vice president joe biden and mitch mcconnell brokered a deal and, yes, it cleared the senate late last night. but no, the republican-controlled house of representatives hasn't voted on this yet. they are going to convene in about 30 minutes. house democratic caucus is meeting in less than an hour while the house gop leaders are meeting at 1:00 p.m. eastern time. both parties undoubtedly laying the groundwork for the fiscal cliff showdown that will unfold between its 435 house members. one of those members is democratic congressman from michigan. he's kind enough to join me. thank you for being with us today. first of all, if you could get me up to speed on the decision to make a decision v you heard anything about the possibility there might be a vote today with your members? >> i haven't heard directly. i think there will be. i think the vote last night in the senate set the stage. it was overwhelming. we're going to have a caucus democrats and republicans will
. >>> if bridging the partisan divide wasn't challenge enough, get ready because the fiscal cliff is far from a done deal. vice president joe biden and mitch mcconnell brokered a deal and, yes, it cleared the senate late last night. but no, the republican-controlled house of representatives hasn't voted on this yet. they are going to convene in about 30 minutes. house democratic caucus is meeting in less than an hour while the house gop leaders are meeting at 1:00 p.m. eastern time....
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. >> because the fiscal cliff. i'm done with that until we get some news. >> i think that's a lot of name recognition, don't you? people also, rand paul, for example, very dynamic on television. people recognize him and his energy and his different ideas, so he stands out. but it also is a reflection of the fact that the republican party doesn't -- has an identity crisis. these are people who are moderates and iconic class and very far out on the edges. that doesn't speak to a party that really has a clear leader or a central ideology to speak to. >> and won't until it gets a nominee. the next time we'll know what the republican party is about, maybe, when they get a nominee, right? >> well, you can get the contours of a debate if people really don't have one. remember bill clinton campaigning in the late '80s and early 1990s building a consistent case for the democratic party that was in some ways in worst shape than republicans are now. >> that took two gigantic strokes of luck. one was that mario cuomo did not r
. >> because the fiscal cliff. i'm done with that until we get some news. >> i think that's a lot of name recognition, don't you? people also, rand paul, for example, very dynamic on television. people recognize him and his energy and his different ideas, so he stands out. but it also is a reflection of the fact that the republican party doesn't -- has an identity crisis. these are people who are moderates and iconic class and very far out on the edges. that doesn't speak to a party...
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cliff stuff done. speaker boehner took issue, won't surprise you either, with the president's appearance, in particular the president saying wait i have offered $1 trillion worth of cuts, i offered two to one spending cuts and here's what boehner had to say -- the president's comments are ironic as a recurring theme of our negotiations was his unwillingness to agree to anything that would require him to stand up to his own party. needed cuts and reforms that the president agreed to last year were no longer on the table as he cited an inability it to sell them to democrats. somebody is inflexible here. >> he accuses the president of the failure of leadership and in these days when somebody in washington uses the word leadership what they are meaning is caving in and bringing you own party along. i think the president was very clear in this interview that his strategy all along he is not going to be drawn into these negotiations because the white house thinks that one of the biggest mistakes of his presi
cliff stuff done. speaker boehner took issue, won't surprise you either, with the president's appearance, in particular the president saying wait i have offered $1 trillion worth of cuts, i offered two to one spending cuts and here's what boehner had to say -- the president's comments are ironic as a recurring theme of our negotiations was his unwillingness to agree to anything that would require him to stand up to his own party. needed cuts and reforms that the president agreed to last year...
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if this fiscal cliff thing is done, i'm going to sleep. however, if it isn't dealt with, your taxes are going to go up. your grocery bill might go up too. the deal that could affect milk prices, next. and a new year's message from washington from one of our viewers. >> my new year's message to washington is this. there are not wealthy enough and corporations to keep you in office. in this light, grow up, govern, and most importantly. support middle class policies. am i on this one? no, no, no, no, no. i am on this one. [ male announcer ] for every 2 pounds you lose through diet and exercise alli can help you lose one more by blocking some of the fat you eat. simple. effective. belt-friendly. let's fight fat with alli. learn more, lose more at letsfightfat.com. learn more, lose more are you flo? yes. is this the thing you gave my husband? well, yeah, yes. the "name your price" tool. you tell us the price you want to pay, and we give you a range of options to choose from. careful, though -- that kind of power can go to your head. that explai
if this fiscal cliff thing is done, i'm going to sleep. however, if it isn't dealt with, your taxes are going to go up. your grocery bill might go up too. the deal that could affect milk prices, next. and a new year's message from washington from one of our viewers. >> my new year's message to washington is this. there are not wealthy enough and corporations to keep you in office. in this light, grow up, govern, and most importantly. support middle class policies. am i on this one? no,...
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i think it is crystal clear that he wants to go off the fiscal cliff. david: let's be clear about what he has done and wants to do. he increases 25% of the baseline. if we go over the fiscal cliff, he gets a lot more money. it is not just rich people paying out. he will get a lot more money, so he does want that. he will get a cut into military. if anything goes wrong, he can blame republicans for it. >> right. from his standpoint, it is a win-win across the board to go over the cliff, have the automatic sequester cuts, take the tax increases, go back to the clinton era rates and that when the economy reacts, as it most certainly will, negatively, then he will blame the republicans for putting us into a recession. david: let's put a fine point on that. what we are suggesting here, they call it an outrageous suggestion, that the president is willing to send this country into a recession to get what he wants. you are really saying that? >> i think that he is willing to gamble. i believe that the president and his advisors have looked at the history of con
i think it is crystal clear that he wants to go off the fiscal cliff. david: let's be clear about what he has done and wants to do. he increases 25% of the baseline. if we go over the fiscal cliff, he gets a lot more money. it is not just rich people paying out. he will get a lot more money, so he does want that. he will get a cut into military. if anything goes wrong, he can blame republicans for it. >> right. from his standpoint, it is a win-win across the board to go over the cliff,...
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the subject is fiscal cliff update. colleagues. i appreciate your patience and know you are anxious to understand where we stand on the package. the tax piece is complete and done as of last evening at 1:45 a.m. i thought the entire deal was done. the white house called his morning asking that we also turn off the sequester. the white house has yet to the agree to the $100 beautiful various proposals i suggested but we are continuing to talk. in other words, they wanted that deal to be done. it's not. arthel: thank you so much. we are back in two minutes. arthel: a brand-new hour, we start with a fox news alert. there is just 10 hours left for law makers to resolve a debate that began with cutting our nation's debt and now threatens to raise taxes on nearly every american. brand-new hour of "america live." rick: these last-minute meetings, as we have been getting reports about significant progress. but with lawmakers still at odds over the particulars of the plan threatening to take shape. the possibility of a midnight tax hike is
the subject is fiscal cliff update. colleagues. i appreciate your patience and know you are anxious to understand where we stand on the package. the tax piece is complete and done as of last evening at 1:45 a.m. i thought the entire deal was done. the white house called his morning asking that we also turn off the sequester. the white house has yet to the agree to the $100 beautiful various proposals i suggested but we are continuing to talk. in other words, they wanted that deal to be done....
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they're waiting to see what happens with the fiscal cliff. >> hope is fact if congress can get it done before january 1st. even congressional leaders are skeptical. >> the american people have a right to be very upset with this congress. >> president obama has invited nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell, and harry reid to the white house this afternoon for a fiscal cliff summit. >> here we are five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking. >> today's white house meeting might be the last chance to come to an agreement. that's because it takes time for a bill to work its way through both chamber of commerce. >> i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> under senate rules, the only way a bill could make its way through the procedural hurdles in time is if every senator agrees not to. they'll have 24 hours. outside the beltway, carlino will be watching. >> everyone is kind of in a wait-and-see and fingers-crossed per expect tichb right now. >> since 1930 this is only the fifth time congress has worked after christmas. and today's summit is the first time p
they're waiting to see what happens with the fiscal cliff. >> hope is fact if congress can get it done before january 1st. even congressional leaders are skeptical. >> the american people have a right to be very upset with this congress. >> president obama has invited nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell, and harry reid to the white house this afternoon for a fiscal cliff summit. >> here we are five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking....
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>> people who have been watching these fiscal cliff negotiations for a long time basically expected it to play out pretty much the way it played out. there was not much real expectation that any grand bargain would happen because this is still a lame duck session of congress and the fact is in these negotiations neither side has maximum leverage until it's right up to the very last second. so that's when everybody feels they have the best ability to exact the demands that will satisfy their constituents and as a result it just really is not in either side's interest to make an agreement before you get to the last second because that is when everybody feels they have the most leverage. and we're going to see the same dynamic again with these other issues, most notably the debt ceiling coming in a couple months. >> thank you very much for your perspective. happy new year. >> same to you. >>> well the house action is about to officially begin so don't go anywhere. sometimes what we suffer from is bigger than we think ... like the flu. with aches, fever and chills- the flu's a really big d
>> people who have been watching these fiscal cliff negotiations for a long time basically expected it to play out pretty much the way it played out. there was not much real expectation that any grand bargain would happen because this is still a lame duck session of congress and the fact is in these negotiations neither side has maximum leverage until it's right up to the very last second. so that's when everybody feels they have the best ability to exact the demands that will satisfy...
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fiscal conservatives say a smaller stop gap measure to avoid the cliff won't work. >> if we, in fact, do not use this period of time before right now, deal with the bigger issue and entitlements, if we just continue to kick the can down the road. the market will respond in a more permanent and negative way to our inaction. >> one thing leading republicans and democrats seem to agree on is time is running short. veteran senate democrat says there is a very small window to get something done. >> if we don't have a deal within the next 24 hours, the question is where do you buy a pair of shoes? the closer we get to the end the less likely you will compress agreement in place that will have it pass. >> this struggle over the future of the country some suggest is not that different than what many americans face in their daily lives. >> this is no different than marriage. a lot of marriages fail because they fight over money. that i get heavily in debt and they fight over money issues. we as a nation are right now fighting over money because we are so heavily in debt. >> though in this case
fiscal conservatives say a smaller stop gap measure to avoid the cliff won't work. >> if we, in fact, do not use this period of time before right now, deal with the bigger issue and entitlements, if we just continue to kick the can down the road. the market will respond in a more permanent and negative way to our inaction. >> one thing leading republicans and democrats seem to agree on is time is running short. veteran senate democrat says there is a very small window to get...
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i do begrudge what he's done in this fiscal cliff talks. it's been very clear from the beginning that he had no intention to solve the fiscal issues. he's been using this, and i must say with great skill and ruthless skill and success, to fracture and basically shatter the republican opposition. the only, you know, redoubt of the opposition is the house. and his objective from the very beginning was to break the will of the republicans in the house and to create an internal civil war and he's done that. how did he do it? from also insisting from day one after the election that the republicans had to raise rates. there's no reason at all to get the revenue that he needed and that the speaker was offering him that you had to raise rates. obama himself, as you know, said last july, july, 2011, you can get $1.2 trillion by eliminating loopholes, which is exactly what republicans offered him. so why did he insist on the rates? he said that is what he will insist upon, and that was the ultimatum. he did that because he knew it would create a cris
i do begrudge what he's done in this fiscal cliff talks. it's been very clear from the beginning that he had no intention to solve the fiscal issues. he's been using this, and i must say with great skill and ruthless skill and success, to fracture and basically shatter the republican opposition. the only, you know, redoubt of the opposition is the house. and his objective from the very beginning was to break the will of the republicans in the house and to create an internal civil war and he's...
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cliff. it's a cliff that the lawmakers built. they've set the tuesday deadline, they've known it was coming for more it and a year. but until now they've done little to agree on tax increases on tax cuts until that time. people in this building have none what's coming on tuesday yet they're only returning to get back to work just now. senate came back yesterday. house members, well, they won't be back until sunday. this afternoon house on senate leaders met with president obama at the white house. they talked for about an hour. afterwards president obama said he was modestly optimistic. bypassing house speaker john boehner, who has had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority on minority leads are harry reid on mitch mcconnell to work out a deal on then present it to the house. he also laid out a scaled down mini deal if they are can't manage it. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill
cliff. it's a cliff that the lawmakers built. they've set the tuesday deadline, they've known it was coming for more it and a year. but until now they've done little to agree on tax increases on tax cuts until that time. people in this building have none what's coming on tuesday yet they're only returning to get back to work just now. senate came back yesterday. house members, well, they won't be back until sunday. this afternoon house on senate leaders met with president obama at the white...
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cliff, and most of the conversation has been about taxes and the white house has done an excellent job, by dealing with the house, and all the messaging today and the weekend about how this is about republican intransigence on taxes. we have seen that. there is as much gap 20 president and his party in congress on spending cuts as there is between john boehner and his caucus on taxes. there is great distance in how far that party has to go to come together to do the kind of entitlement cuts that we still need to see at some time, whether this month or this year or next year. there's a long way to go. they have never been as close as people think on this topic. >> o'donnell: that's interesting, you're saying in terms of messaging the white house has done a good job in keeping this-- >> brilliant. right on taxes. on spending, every time the white house suggested a little bit of spending cuts, social security, med character immediately the democratic caucus said no. >> o'donnell: isn't that the thing about the boehner deal the president said this morning, he was willing to go father on sp
cliff, and most of the conversation has been about taxes and the white house has done an excellent job, by dealing with the house, and all the messaging today and the weekend about how this is about republican intransigence on taxes. we have seen that. there is as much gap 20 president and his party in congress on spending cuts as there is between john boehner and his caucus on taxes. there is great distance in how far that party has to go to come together to do the kind of entitlement cuts...
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the other thing is assuming we have to do something with the fiscal cliff here, but even once that's done and presume lbl awhat we're looking at now is more of a smaller short-term fix, that doesn't mean he's going to take his eye off the economy. he learned the lesson of this early in his first term when he said, okay, we took care of that, we did the stimulus, let's move on to health care. it would be perilous to move away from the economy for this president. in terms of other issues, certainly immigration is low-hanging fruit and he can move very quickly on that. and he needs to move very quickly on guns because if he doesn't move very quickly, he's not going to get anything on that. >> agreed. jonathan, there was a lot to cheer for in twafl, support for marriage equality, health care reform, we moved closer to full recognition of the dream act, not to mention the election itself which was a big victory. but, you know, those victories are going to have to be preserved and we know there's going to be more on a lot of those issues coming in 2013. the states have to implement obama c
the other thing is assuming we have to do something with the fiscal cliff here, but even once that's done and presume lbl awhat we're looking at now is more of a smaller short-term fix, that doesn't mean he's going to take his eye off the economy. he learned the lesson of this early in his first term when he said, okay, we took care of that, we did the stimulus, let's move on to health care. it would be perilous to move away from the economy for this president. in terms of other issues,...
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lawmakers have just three days left to get a deal done in time to avoid the fiscal cliff. even if a deal is thrown together at the 11th hour, senate majority leader harry reid says what they come up with will be imperfect. and some people aren't going to like it. i spoke with independent new york stock exchange trader kenny polkari earlier and asked them how wall street is reacting to the looming fiscal cliff. >> we've come right to the 11th hour. the -- the fact that there's going to be a substantive deal that comes out of this in the 11th hour is probably nil to zero, right? essentially in my sense, it's easier to go over the cliff. then there's clarity, right? taxes will go up, spending will get cut. the market will know what is going to happen. it can only get better from there because then you'll get legislators that come to the table, that try to cut taxes and raise some spending, and they'll argue it from a positive point of view and stand up and say, rah-rah, look what we, did right? it won't get any worse if we go over the cliff. if there's a bandaid, it leaves co
lawmakers have just three days left to get a deal done in time to avoid the fiscal cliff. even if a deal is thrown together at the 11th hour, senate majority leader harry reid says what they come up with will be imperfect. and some people aren't going to like it. i spoke with independent new york stock exchange trader kenny polkari earlier and asked them how wall street is reacting to the looming fiscal cliff. >> we've come right to the 11th hour. the -- the fact that there's going to be...
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what speaker boehner has done is create a situation in which we are going to go over the fiscal cliff. but the people who want higher taxes, the democrats they will not be ready for it. it was john boehner that walked away the negotiations to try plan-b and then it was mr. boehner who failed to pass the plan. and then it was mr. boehner who said it was somebody else's problem. what he has done is a debacle for the republicans. the white house has been sitting back and letting it happen. you can call it deal and jam. >> i am optimistic that we can reach an greept that can pass both houses in time. senators reed and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. but, if an agreement is not reached in time, between reed and mcconnell, i will urge senator reed to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote, one that protects the middle class from an income tax hike and extends the vital life line of unemployment insurance for two million americans looking for a job and lays the groundwork for more cooperation on deficit reduction and economic growth. guys, i can hea
what speaker boehner has done is create a situation in which we are going to go over the fiscal cliff. but the people who want higher taxes, the democrats they will not be ready for it. it was john boehner that walked away the negotiations to try plan-b and then it was mr. boehner who failed to pass the plan. and then it was mr. boehner who said it was somebody else's problem. what he has done is a debacle for the republicans. the white house has been sitting back and letting it happen. you can...
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brad, the fiscal cliff is one of the reasons why people are so incredibly gloomy about the future, and, you know, dick's making the point here when speaker john boehner can't even get his own party to follow him and put up a vote on his plan, i mean, aren't republicans equally to blame for the public's profound pessimism? >> well, we have a divided nation, that is for sure. this president has not done his job in leading, and had he done his job in leading especially in the fiscal cliff, he wouldn't be in hawaii now, he'd be in washington making sure that we had a deal -- gregg: has boehner done his job? >> boehner has done a great job in trying to lead republicans to a solution. gregg: seriously? >> absolutely. gregg: he can't even get a vote on his own plan, come on. >> here's the problem, gregg, is we have a president who basically says it's his way or the highway, and republicans are saying, no, we will raise revenue, but we won't do it at the expense of spending. our problem is a president who loves to spend money, who's now put down another $6 trillion in debt, and basically wants
brad, the fiscal cliff is one of the reasons why people are so incredibly gloomy about the future, and, you know, dick's making the point here when speaker john boehner can't even get his own party to follow him and put up a vote on his plan, i mean, aren't republicans equally to blame for the public's profound pessimism? >> well, we have a divided nation, that is for sure. this president has not done his job in leading, and had he done his job in leading especially in the fiscal cliff,...
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everyone assumes the fiscal cliff negotiations are done for the moment. suppose the newfound bears conventional wisdom is wrong. suppose if we don't go over the fiscal cliff or at the very least we get resolved with minimum destruction as i talked about at the top of the show. my super bowl see you in new orleans solution. i'm not saying this will happen. i'm saying this positive scenario is very much on the table. it has to be considered. and in that rosy okay things are all right scenario, good things could happen to our stock market in 2013. let's say you're an optimist that believes the fiscal cliff will be resolved and they rise above. what's the best way to play a fabulous bull market that some think could be unleashed? simple. assuming that everything goes right, the best proxy for the market in 2013 is the blackstone group. the big publicly traded asset firm. why blackstone? a company that i wasn't keen on. the company earns money investing other people's money. private equity funds. at the moment the company has $205 billion in assets under manag
everyone assumes the fiscal cliff negotiations are done for the moment. suppose the newfound bears conventional wisdom is wrong. suppose if we don't go over the fiscal cliff or at the very least we get resolved with minimum destruction as i talked about at the top of the show. my super bowl see you in new orleans solution. i'm not saying this will happen. i'm saying this positive scenario is very much on the table. it has to be considered. and in that rosy okay things are all right scenario,...
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obama has done a much better job of positioning himself to take advantage of the fiscal cliff. he has painted republicans is only caring about their millionaire and billionaire friends. taking hostage the people of america. you have steny hoyer saying that republicans want to take children hostage and threatened to shoot them. this is vilifying republicans and it has been incredibly effective. in the short term, absolutely, the president is set to take advantage of this. tax increases, massive tax reductions to the military. republicans really stand and the notion is appalling about who wins, but the republicans win because the economy is going to go out yet another fiscal cliff. george w. bush is not the president. obama is the president, he is not putting forth proposals to work with republicans. he will have to take ownership of this. they need to come up with a cohesive message about real economic growth and shrinking the size of government. they don't have a message and that is going to be the big question about who wins and long-run. jon: if we go over the cliff, i mean,
obama has done a much better job of positioning himself to take advantage of the fiscal cliff. he has painted republicans is only caring about their millionaire and billionaire friends. taking hostage the people of america. you have steny hoyer saying that republicans want to take children hostage and threatened to shoot them. this is vilifying republicans and it has been incredibly effective. in the short term, absolutely, the president is set to take advantage of this. tax increases, massive...
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to be a huge problem. >> we are dangerously close to the fiscal cliff. now, in all fairness, not all of it hits on new year's day but some of it does. the white house, we have a white house source who has said this. let me just read this to you. it says we believe very strongly a reasonable package can get majorities in both houses. the only thing that would prevent it is if senator mcconnell and speaker boehner don't cooperate. this is from the white house yesterday. do you believe that to be the case? >> no, i don't believe that to be the case. listen, a year ago august when the president was negotiating with the speaker, they were very close to the big deal that needs to be struck. and this isn't a one party or a one house problem. this is leaders of both parties and all branches of the government are not willing to make the deal that they know they have to make, and everybody wants their stuff but doesn't want to give up, you know, what they don't want to give up. >> you know, we're showing pictures right now of john boehner and president obama. john
to be a huge problem. >> we are dangerously close to the fiscal cliff. now, in all fairness, not all of it hits on new year's day but some of it does. the white house, we have a white house source who has said this. let me just read this to you. it says we believe very strongly a reasonable package can get majorities in both houses. the only thing that would prevent it is if senator mcconnell and speaker boehner don't cooperate. this is from the white house yesterday. do you believe that...
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can you explain what that means, and how would that make the fiscal cliff negotiations different? >> yeah. the vast majority of our decision-making happens the at an automatic, unconscious level. the challenge and the problem -- i'm talking about most of our thinking. the challenge we have with that regard is the fact that most of the filtering system that we have that makes those decisions was put in place for us when we were small children. as a result, really smart people can make really dumb decisions, or grown-ups can behave childishly. if a leader is more conscious of the patterns, they can cut them off and maintain a great degree of consciousness and therefore maturity in making decisions and acting on those. >> but we see both sides really dug in. we now seem to be in an impasse. are you saying that there's childish behavior? we take about transformative leadership perspective. how do you advocate and advise, let's say, speaker boehner and president obama? how do we move past that? >> you know, one of the fundamental problems we run into when we think about the unconscious
can you explain what that means, and how would that make the fiscal cliff negotiations different? >> yeah. the vast majority of our decision-making happens the at an automatic, unconscious level. the challenge and the problem -- i'm talking about most of our thinking. the challenge we have with that regard is the fact that most of the filtering system that we have that makes those decisions was put in place for us when we were small children. as a result, really smart people can make...
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how much of what is ultimately able to get done depends on the outcome of this fiscal cliff fight? >> well, i guess the temptation is to say this is going to use up all the energy and fighting spirit of the white house but the president has four years, maybe two, maybe one before the mid terms, one after. i think that there's a legacy situation in play here and so i'm pretty sure that he is going to want to not leave huge debt and there is also a situation where what's good for him is also good in some respects for republicans. so do republicans want immigration reform before the next election? do they want to dig out of the hole they're in with hispanic voters? so there is some mutual interest. i think that gun fight is going to be very difficult but i think that's something that we're going to see, if it doesn't happen this year it may happen the next year or the year after. it is just something that i think the president will want to leave office having achieved. so nothing is going to be easy. we'll have very many brinks, you know, and a lot of fighting over principles which is
how much of what is ultimately able to get done depends on the outcome of this fiscal cliff fight? >> well, i guess the temptation is to say this is going to use up all the energy and fighting spirit of the white house but the president has four years, maybe two, maybe one before the mid terms, one after. i think that there's a legacy situation in play here and so i'm pretty sure that he is going to want to not leave huge debt and there is also a situation where what's good for him is...
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cliff deal not done at all. stay with cnn all day for the developing news on the fiscal cliff, we have a big house vote perhaps as this bill gets to the floor. as we say good-bye to 2012 thank you to all the people behind the scenes who make "starting point" possible. happy new year, everyone. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ should all acquaintance be forgot
cliff deal not done at all. stay with cnn all day for the developing news on the fiscal cliff, we have a big house vote perhaps as this bill gets to the floor. as we say good-bye to 2012 thank you to all the people behind the scenes who make "starting point" possible. happy new year, everyone. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ should all acquaintance be forgot
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with the house reconvening to help the nation avoid the fiscal cliff, remember that disasters affect every region of this nation and that we as a nation stand together in times of crisis. house g.o.p. speaker john boehner has signaled he supports sandy aid. but his spokesman says that the speaker has not decided whether or not to bring up this bill in this session of congress, which ends on thursday. if they don't take it up by thursday, the senate bill will expire and the new congress will have to start all over again. >> eric: all right. thanks. >> coming up, russia has banned adoptions by u.s. families. coming up, we will speak with a couple in the process of adopting this little boy, about their ordeal and how right now, they can't bring him home and give him the life that they say he deserves. >> eric: we will give smuadvice about how young people can start now for planning for their retirement. that's right, without breaking the bank. advice on building, not breaking your nest egg, as you get older. >> we are just 48 hours away from new year's eve. why is all that confetti fall
with the house reconvening to help the nation avoid the fiscal cliff, remember that disasters affect every region of this nation and that we as a nation stand together in times of crisis. house g.o.p. speaker john boehner has signaled he supports sandy aid. but his spokesman says that the speaker has not decided whether or not to bring up this bill in this session of congress, which ends on thursday. if they don't take it up by thursday, the senate bill will expire and the new congress will...
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the fiscal cliff. -- senator barbara boxer. >> we can sit here and watch what is happening. we know that there are negotiations going on to avert at least part of the fiscal cliff. i want to say, and i have said this privately and publicly that i really hope our leaders can find a way out of this. i watched the president's speech today and i thought, as usual, he was very fair in what he said. what he basically said it is it is the middle class who grows this economy, the middle class needs to be lifted up, the middle class to cannot afford the tax hikes down those at the very top can give just a little bit more. it is a very simple point. i just would hope, given that everyone says it is not about class, and i know they say that every day on the other side of the aisle. finding this compromise will not be inclusive but will come to pass. . you you know, i have been here for a while. my understanding is we have not met between -- christmas and new years since 1962. it takes something of major proportio
the fiscal cliff. -- senator barbara boxer. >> we can sit here and watch what is happening. we know that there are negotiations going on to avert at least part of the fiscal cliff. i want to say, and i have said this privately and publicly that i really hope our leaders can find a way out of this. i watched the president's speech today and i thought, as usual, he was very fair in what he said. what he basically said it is it is the middle class who grows this economy, the middle class...
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just days ago he looked to avoid a fiscal cliff. will a deal get done? a newspaper under heavy criticism now for publishing the names of local gun permit legal local gun permit holders online. details on that are next on n "news nation." e reached the age where you don't back down from a challenge. this is the age of knowing how to make things happen. so, why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask your doctor if...
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cliff deadline had gone by. >> i think we can say we've done some good for the country. >> reporter: since lawmakers missed the midnight deadline nearly every american wakes up with higher taxes but congress can undo those tax hikes if the house passes the senate's bill. vice president biden, who was instrumental in brokering the deal, told reporters he's hopeful it can get through the house but you never know. >> you shouldn't predict how the senate will vote before they vote and number two, you surely shouldn't predict how the house is going to vote. >> reporter: it would extend tax cuts for all workers earning under $400,000 and raise taxes on people above that level and prevent a big tax hike in an estate valued at less than $5 million and extend unemployment benefits for 2 million people. the house will take it up later this morning, the hope is that chamber can pass it before the economy is rocked by the tax hikes. >> happy new year. i feel very, very good. >> reporter: president obama called the senate vote the right thing to do for the country and he encouraged the house to p
cliff deadline had gone by. >> i think we can say we've done some good for the country. >> reporter: since lawmakers missed the midnight deadline nearly every american wakes up with higher taxes but congress can undo those tax hikes if the house passes the senate's bill. vice president biden, who was instrumental in brokering the deal, told reporters he's hopeful it can get through the house but you never know. >> you shouldn't predict how the senate will vote before they vote...
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but the fiscal cliff will have happened. and one reason is i think it will be much too hard for the house to agree to a bill that uncouples the tax hikes. in other words, maybe raise taxes on one group, but not another group. that removes the leverage that i think republicans really feel they need in order to get the kind of spending cuts and entitlement reform that they feel is really just fundamental to reforming the nation's debt and the economy staring down a healthier path. so for that reason, yeah, i don't think they're going to have anything by the end of the week. jon: we just heard harry reid saying, oh, it's all john boehner's fault in the house of representatives. the president also seems to be pointing at the house. where does the truth lie here? i mean, who is, who needs to budge? >> well, technically the house and senate have each passed bills, but they don't agree on the bills that they've passed. for republicans i know from talking to even the most moderate republicans they are willing to vote for a tax rate
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. >>> the clock is ticking toward the showdown on the fiscal cliff. one of the big questions is, what will happen next? shawn tully is here, editor at large for "fortune" magazine, he joins us from new york right now. you have followed most of the major economic stories for more than 20 years now. i'm not trying to make you seem old. sometimes i do, when i say how long i've been doing this. is this the first time you've seen something go this close to the wire? >> i think so, don. and what's really troubling about the debate is really missed by a lot of commentators, this is really a spending issue. we understand that even if taxes go up on individuals making over 200,000 and families making over 250, it only plugs about 8% of the deficit problem over the next ten years. we have a $1.3 trillion deficit for 2012. it will be about a trillion for 2013. we're borrowing 35 cents on the dollar. the enormous problem is interest rates are way below normal, so when they spike, which they inevitably will, and the government is borrowing very short term to keep
. >>> the clock is ticking toward the showdown on the fiscal cliff. one of the big questions is, what will happen next? shawn tully is here, editor at large for "fortune" magazine, he joins us from new york right now. you have followed most of the major economic stories for more than 20 years now. i'm not trying to make you seem old. sometimes i do, when i say how long i've been doing this. is this the first time you've seen something go this close to the wire? >> i...
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talk about what the impact of the fiscal cliff has done to the oil market. take a look at oil prices today. since christmas, we are up about 3%. take a look at the volume. if you look at the volume of trading, and "wall street journal" was onto this first talking about the falloff of volume in november, but it has really continued. take a look at what the normal average volume is and where we are today. by the way, out at the exxon mobil refinery, and caught this caught by the way, is one of the nation's newest refineries. a little news out here as we speak today. they have to report this to the federal government because -- liz: we are having some technical difficulties with jeff flock. working on a solution to the debt crisis. first, some of today's winners, s&p. ♪ >> announcer: you never know when, but thieves can steal your identity and turn your life upside down. >> hi. >> hi. you know, i can save you 15% today if you open up a charge card account with us. >> you just read my mind. >> announcer: just one little piece of information and they can open b
talk about what the impact of the fiscal cliff has done to the oil market. take a look at oil prices today. since christmas, we are up about 3%. take a look at the volume. if you look at the volume of trading, and "wall street journal" was onto this first talking about the falloff of volume in november, but it has really continued. take a look at what the normal average volume is and where we are today. by the way, out at the exxon mobil refinery, and caught this caught by the way, is...
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. >> well, if we go sailing over that fiscal cliff and nothing is done, in the next few weeks you could see a smaller paycheck, depending upon how your withholdings are handled. there are so many things you need to look at as far as your income taxes. the lowest income category could be hit the hardest. that 10% tax bracket goes away all together. so the poor insist of the poor could really take a hit. so it's really time to sit down, look at your situation, start planning, don't panic. and hopefully some sort of deal will be worked out in the final hours. >> heather: plan to have a little less money in your pocketbook. what other factors do we need to consider beyond taxes in our paychecks? >> we've talked a lot about long-term capital gains. that's something you need to be aware of. any sort of gains on dividends is something you'll need to look at in 2013. we've also talked about the alternative minimum tax. you've been hearing about the amt. this is something that came into play in 1969 to make sure that the rich, if you will, played their fair share of taxes. in fact, it's hit the
. >> well, if we go sailing over that fiscal cliff and nothing is done, in the next few weeks you could see a smaller paycheck, depending upon how your withholdings are handled. there are so many things you need to look at as far as your income taxes. the lowest income category could be hit the hardest. that 10% tax bracket goes away all together. so the poor insist of the poor could really take a hit. so it's really time to sit down, look at your situation, start planning, don't panic....
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cliff. now president obama is calling on the house to pass the bill without delay. the bill stops most of the tax hikes and spending cuts that were to kick in at midnight. tara mergener is in washington with more this morning. tara, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, terrell. well, a deal is now on the books to avert some of the impact of the fiscal cliff which technically we have gone over. now it is up to the house. in the early morning hours of new year's day, the senate began voting on a bill to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. >> the bill as amended is passed. >> reporter: the senate voted 89-8 to avoid tax hikes for 99% of all americans. >> this shouldn't be the model for how we do things around here. but i think we can say we've done some good for the country. >> r if the bill eventually becomes law, the bush era tax cuts will be permanently extended for everyone making less than $400,000 a year. and families making less than $450,000 a year. it will also keep the altern
cliff. now president obama is calling on the house to pass the bill without delay. the bill stops most of the tax hikes and spending cuts that were to kick in at midnight. tara mergener is in washington with more this morning. tara, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, terrell. well, a deal is now on the books to avert some of the impact of the fiscal cliff which technically we have gone over. now it is up to the house. in the early morning hours of new year's day, the senate...
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cliff, has a lot of the damage been done, brian? >> i think it has. that's a good point and i think what you need to do is put your trader hat on and say i'm going to trade this for a hope rally, but if you're a longer term investor i would use any type of rally to take any profits that i have because i think a lot of damage has been done over the last year. businesses have been paralyzed and now the consumer has been paralyzed. what advice do you have among people trying to invest amidst this uncertainty. >> i think long term they're much more important for factors at work than what happens with this budget deal. >> thank goodness. >>a you will we would do if we went over the cliff from a tax point of view is install the tax structure from the clinton administration. >> we'll show people right now that you like homebuilders and you like retailers, right? put that up. heebner likes retail, home building, what's the third one? automobiles. >> all early-cycle stocks. i like these stocks because the economy is going to be -- has a mult
cliff, has a lot of the damage been done, brian? >> i think it has. that's a good point and i think what you need to do is put your trader hat on and say i'm going to trade this for a hope rally, but if you're a longer term investor i would use any type of rally to take any profits that i have because i think a lot of damage has been done over the last year. businesses have been paralyzed and now the consumer has been paralyzed. what advice do you have among people trying to invest amidst...
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>> i think there's a chance he will br just right enough to get something done on the fiscal cliff. we saw the president this harch meet with the bipartisan leadership in congress. remember the republicans because of the intransigence we talked about their caucus sought the speaker es plan for a plan b. that weakened the republican negotiating position . and now the president has maximum leverage because the tax cuts are due to expire by the end of the year. mitch mcconnell said he was hopeful and optimistic that they could get a deal that they could pass. the reason that that could happen if mitch mcconnell lets it happen, john boehner may feel no option but to put that on the floor for pass adge whether or not most republicans are for it. that would be the realization of that -- >> wouldn't that violate the principle that would have govern the policy that nothing wowlingd pass unless the yort of the majority support it. >> it would violate the principle. some democrats think that mitch mcconnell is ready to force john boehner's hand. we know the republicans are going to lose the f
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to avert this so-called fiscal cliff. ed, good to see you. merry christmas to you. >> reporter: merry christmas, kelly. economists have warned that this could lead to another recession if in fact these massive spending cuts and tax hikes kick in at the same time right at the beginning of the new year. what they're trying to do to avert that is scaled back plan that the president suggested late last week that would basically deal with some of the emergency pests of this. extended unemployment benefits for two million people about to be kicked off their benefits a week after christmas the president also wants to extend tax cuts for the middle class. you heard house speaker john boehner say the problem there that will raise tax rates for some. he thinks that will hurt the economy, although over the weekend in sort of a holiday message the speaker suggested maybe they can come together after the holiday. >> of course hope springs eternal and i know we have it in us to come together and do the right thing. we'll continue to wo
to avert this so-called fiscal cliff. ed, good to see you. merry christmas to you. >> reporter: merry christmas, kelly. economists have warned that this could lead to another recession if in fact these massive spending cuts and tax hikes kick in at the same time right at the beginning of the new year. what they're trying to do to avert that is scaled back plan that the president suggested late last week that would basically deal with some of the emergency pests of this. extended...
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cliff and what it is going to take to get a deal done. our gop and democratic strategists are standing by to dive into that debate. >> and christmas is over, but the deals are still out there. you'll find out what is expected to drop in price as we head into the new year. >>> this is fox 5 news at 10:00. >>> back to our top story, we are just three days way from reaching the fiscal cliff -- away from reaching the fiscal cliff. this afternoon president obama held talks with congressional leaders at the white house. the president says he is hopeful a deal can be reached in order to avoid automatic tax increases and spending cuts come january 1st. senator harry reid and mitch mcconnell are trying to hammer out a deal the house might approve, but the house is ticking. joining us now are our political strategists. brendan, the president today said is he going to have senator mcconnell, senator reid start off on this package, but doesn't that eliminate a big player in this, which is john boehner, if this has to get passed through the house? >>
cliff and what it is going to take to get a deal done. our gop and democratic strategists are standing by to dive into that debate. >> and christmas is over, but the deals are still out there. you'll find out what is expected to drop in price as we head into the new year. >>> this is fox 5 news at 10:00. >>> back to our top story, we are just three days way from reaching the fiscal cliff -- away from reaching the fiscal cliff. this afternoon president obama held talks...